OK thanks for letting me know where to find equivalents Jay.
I'm a bit obsessive (at least that's what my family tell me!

) about information to do with the projects I take on. I am assembling a portfolio of all the stuff I'll need if I am to have any chance of making effective animals and buildings. Knowing that I don't know how to extract dinosaurs (which don't appear on any of my various copies of APE) and also that I know little about sounds in zt

, I thought I'd add these sources to my portfolio. So that's what I was after Fern - thanks

.
Dr Rick