ljaccity
posted Mar 30 2003, 10:03 PM
I had Zoo tycoon and the expansion pack installed and every time I was
playing it it would lag every few minutes of play. It was like it would
freeze and the slowly go back to normal. How can i fix this. I decided
to completely uninstall it and reinstall and it now it will not run at
all. It will start to come on and then just quit and go back to windows.
I have uninstalled and reinstall a number of times. Can some one help me
figure this out???? you can yim me at maddog_114 in yahoo messanger
searain79
posted Mar 31 2003, 12:48 PM
welcome to the lounge!
since you have reinstalled, it will not even load, is this correct?
do another uninstall, and then go back to c:program filesmicrosoft games
and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
then reinstall ZT only.
dont add any patches of the sort.
restart the machine, and try to load your game. if plain ZT works, then
go ahead with the expansion pack.
can you please post your system requirements...
(what version of windows do you have? 98? XP?)
(how much memory do you have.. right click on MY Computer and go to
Properties
.. tell me what you have beside the arrows..)
anything is helpful.
ljaccity
posted Mar 31 2003, 01:23 PM
1.79 ghz
512mb of ram
I have windows XP home
I have uninbstalled everything and reinstalled a few times and all I
have is zt and it still will not work.I have upgradede the drivers for
my video card and that did not even work.
searain79
posted Mar 31 2003, 02:13 PM
so when you did do the uninstall(s) you had gotten rid of the folders as
well, before a reinstall?
now at what point does it crash? do you get the intro movies? or do you
click on the icon to load the game, and it does nothing? (any details
would be helpful)
ljaccity
posted Mar 31 2003, 06:33 PM
I have redone the whole pc again and did not add any thing else but the
game and it is working. I am now installing one program at a time to see
what was the issue. At first I would be playing the game and it would
freeze for a couple of seconds and slowly come out of it. The last time
it did it was when I last reinstalled everything and then it would go to
the intro movie and then go back to windows. I then went into zoo.ini
and setup the movies to not play and then it would not play at all. It
would just go back to windows. I dont know what was causeing it but am
trying to figure it out.
jwa1107
posted Apr 1 2003, 08:41 AM
which expansion pack did you have installed: DD? MM?
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Topic: *one little question*
ZTFreak
posted Mar 26 2003, 01:04 PM
I went to the Zoo Admin Resource page and was looking at their hack
downloads and ran across one that said it would allow me to build
outside of the zoo and put more entrances in coming into the zoo. it
said that i needed to download the correct version for what I have. I
have all three games and there are three downloads. one says "ZT", one
says "DD MM", and the other just says "download". Which one should I
download? In case you want to look at it, it is located on this page:
http://zoo.ogresnet.com/utilpatch/index2.shtml
It is the 8th one from the top and it's called "Quebec's Developer Mode"
Mak1027
posted Mar 26 2003, 01:37 PM
maybe it's just not displaying right in your browser...this is what it
looks like in mine:
so just download the one all the way to the right
ZTFreak
posted Mar 26 2003, 01:39 PM
so should i download all three since i have all three or how should i do
it?
Mak1027
posted Mar 26 2003, 01:42 PM
no...you just need the one that is compatible with MM ...with buildings
and hacks, if it says it is for ZT that means if you *only* have ZT
...it usually won't work right with the expansions, that's why they are
updated for each expansion.
biggrin.gif
ZTFreak
posted Mar 26 2003, 01:43 PM
cool thanks biggrin.gif *runs off to download it* hehe
ZTFreak
posted Mar 26 2003, 06:26 PM
Ok, I did that and I got major problems and I couldn't even load up Zoo
Tycoon! I downloaded it and used zip to open it and put it in with my
zoo tycoon files in the update folder like it says. I don't know what
went wrong. Any ideas?
Mak1027
posted Mar 28 2003, 04:17 PM
did you ever get this working? I never installed it so I'm not really
sure how it works, I just know you have to follow the directions exactly
bambam
posted Apr 1 2003, 03:19 PM
Maybe that it's just compatable with another download or another hack
(if any)
I had this same problem but with a different hack.
searain79
posted Apr 1 2003, 04:01 PM
download the zip. open it. run the setup.exe file (double click it to
run it)
To create a new freeform zoo or to work outside of your zoo you need to
unlock first.
To Unlock
Step 1 - Load a zoo you want.
Step 2 - Delete a Zoo Entrance.
Step 3 - Save you game.
Step 4 - Load the zoo you have saved in step 3. (Don't stay in the zoo
in Step 3 you need to reload)
Now your zoo is unlock and you can modify all item in the map.
If you modifying the zoowall an uninterrupted zoo wall is required
(excepte 3 square for Zoo Entrance) for the
game work properly.
After you have finish your modification install your new entrance, save
the game and reload, now you can observe the new
limit of your zoo and the outside of your zoo is now locked, you can use
the developer items after that.
If you use more than one entrance.
After you have saved the game and reload check which zone is locked and
which is unlock.
To change a zone locked to unlock, if the Entrance is SE change for NW
(delete and put new one), same for Sw-->NE.
Or change the order you put the entrance.
To observe your new modification, save and reload.
You can share your saved game with other people without that people need
to download this mode to play.
Know Bug
When you modify your zoo wall, if you put a zoo Wall in the last square
on the map, no problem, but if you try to delete
the zoo Wall on the last square before you save the game --> Game crash!
Use the undo buttom.
Do not create an exhibit outside of the zoo --> Game crash!
Do not create an exhibit with Zoo Wall.
*BTW:
save all current saved games in some different folder somewhere on your
computer. c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonsaved games
i was using the tool, and i deleted the walls, etc, i tried to create a
new zoo wall, using the correct zoo wall, and i tried to re-delete a
part of the wall and my game crashed and all of my saved zoo's became
corrupt.
i am not pleased.
hopefully you have better luck.
btw.... once you have installed the .exe, in your updated folder will be
a .txt file called maual developer.txt.... open it to get the same
instructions i just posted.*
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Topic: *On the verge of giving up*
ZTFreak
posted Mar 28 2003, 05:05 PM
ok, like some of my posts already, i've been trying to figure out how to
download stuff properly into my game. i mentioned yesterday about the
evil parakeet and the rainbow bears. when i was messing around yesterday
trying to get the rainbow bears off, i accidently took the evil parakeet
back off too and when i went to put it back on, it started doing the
same thing, getting to the loading game screen and then shutting off.
it's not just with those either. the only things i have been able to put
on my game successfully are the hacks from the zoo admin site. i don't
know what i'm doing wrong. i've tried downloaded several animals from
this site. i've tried other hacks and buildings and themes from several
sites, most of which i was linked to through here or wisco's site. but
it seems like the only ones that will work for me are the ones from the
main zoo tycoon websites like through microsoft and zoo admin. i don't
know what to do anymore to get it to work. if anyone has any
suggestions, please let me know. i'm about to rip my hair out *le sigh*
searain79
posted Mar 28 2003, 05:54 PM
do not fret, help is on the way!
when it comes to downloading _anything_ user created, you must only
download around 3 to 4 things at one time and install them in the game.
that way, you can test out your game, make /sure/ things are working
before attempting to install anything else.
therefore:
go into c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoon and save your zoo.ini
file to a seperate location. (make a copy.. to say.. My Documents....)
do a complete uninstall of your game.
once it has been uninstalled, go back to c:program filesmicrosoft games
and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
reinstall zoo tycoon, dd and MM with no patches, updates, or anything.
test out your game.
re-paste your zoo.ini files into the main zt folder.
-c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoon
now install everything you want, from the official microsoft website.
*_.ztd_ goes in the updates folder
c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonupdates
_.dll_ goes in the main zoo tycoon folder
c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoon
_.zoo_ IF its for a scenario goes in the MAPS folder
c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonmaps
IF its a user created zoo, it goes in the saved games folder
c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonsaved games*
test your game.
once you know its working, it loads fine, then now you start with user
created items.
download only 3 at a time., installing them, and testing out your game.
(dont do any hacks yet)
once you have download user created items, and your game is working,
start off downloading only 1 hack at a time., and testing out your game.
If at any time you isntall something and suddenly can't open your game,
take out the last 3 things you added., then add in 1 at a time to find
what is making it crash.
make note of the item making the game to crash.
all in all, good luck.
here is your hammer.
ZTFreak
posted Mar 28 2003, 05:58 PM
i think i'm going to need more than a hammer by the time I'm done. well,
i do have to say that i am doing exactly what you said. in fact, last
night i re-installed the game. i started by doing the hacks first
though, one at a time because that's what i really wanted on the game. i
uploaded each one seperately and tested to make sure the game came on
and then to make sure the hack worked properly. after i did that, i
tried to download a user created file and the first one worked but the
second one didn't. it seems that everytime i try to put more than one
user file on my game, that's when it messes up.
searain79
posted Mar 28 2003, 08:43 PM
so all hacks are working? and what if you take out all hacks and just
download user created objects/animals?
ZTFreak
posted Mar 29 2003, 01:24 AM
doesn't work either sad.gif i tried that before i put the hacks on there
and they didn't work so i took the animals off and put the hacks on and
they worked fine so i don't know what the problem is. maybe i got one of
those messed up versions of zt that won't accept any user create files
lol. they'd be just my luck. they made it especially for me and they put
it out on the shelf. they were all waiting in back and when they saw me
come into the store they said "There she is! Put out the crappy version
of ZT". i dunno *shrugs*
searain79
posted Mar 29 2003, 10:53 AM
ok. one last thing before we try something else (btw: thanks for your
patience, eh?)
i'd like you to first download these 3 things into your updates folder.
yeti statue <http://www.zklounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1099>
wolf statue <http://www.zklounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1493>
zeus fountain <http://www.zklounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1836>
they are all .ztd's so they go directly in the updates folder.
first try them with the hacks, and then without the hacks.
If it works, and if it doesnt work, please tell me your system specs.
-what kind of windows do you run? (98?, ME, XP?)
how much memory do you have? (right click on My Computer and click
*properties*
where it says on the pic 797 MHz, and where it says 256 MB of RAM, what
does it say for yours....
much thanks.
ZTFreak
posted Mar 29 2003, 11:55 AM
ok, as far as the downloads go, i will have to do those later tonight.
i'm kinda in a rush this morning b/c the hubby and i are heading out for
the day. but here is my system information. i'll get back with you on
the downloads this evening smile.gif
Windows XP
256 MB of RAM
1.99GHz
i highly doubt memory on my computer will be a problem hehe. i made sure
of that when i bought it biggrin.gif
ZTFreak
posted Mar 30 2003, 05:24 PM
ok, sorry it took me so long sad.gif we didn't get back until about 1 so
i didn't have time to download those last night. i just tried them
though, with the hacks. the zeus fountain and the yeti statue
downloaded. the wolf statue kept saying it timed out so i couldn't get
it to download but the other two i got and they work fine in the game.
if you still want me to try it without the hacks in there, just get back
to me. i'm about to hit the road again but i will definately get back to
you this evening if there is anything else you would like me to try.
thanks for all your help. smile.gif it's much appreciated
ZTFreak
posted Mar 31 2003, 02:29 AM
ok, i've been working at this all evening and i've finally figured
something out. as i said, i still cannot download any of the animals. i
have tried the evil parakeet, rainbow bear, Rainbow Cheesecake the Winged Leprechaun, pegasus and
several others to no avail.
but, i decided to try something different since those two statues worked
earlier. so far i have downloaded the yeti statue, zeus fountain, log
flume ride, drop zone coaster, male/female restrooms, hot air balloon
ride, brick bridge, large garden pack, cotton candy stand, colored light
fountain, and the fantasy foiliage pack, all of which i've hardly had
any problems with.
here are the problems that did occur, but i feel are slightly minor
compared to not even being able to open the game when i download an animal:
1. no guests will get on the drop zone coaster. it's like they don't
even see it
2. the employee at the cotton candy stand doesn't move at all, though it
does show that items are being purchased there
3. in the fantasy foliage package, i can use the small square flower
bush thingies and nothing happened but everytime i put in one of the
colored trees, the game would shut down. i went into my updates folder,
deleted the colored trees from it and went back in, used all the other
items from that pack and have had no problems with them
i really can't figure out why i'm not able to download the animals and
that's the only thing i'm worried about. objects and stuff seem to be
working fine. any ideas?
searain79
posted Mar 31 2003, 12:53 PM
wow... at least, for starters, good job on finding out the main issues!
so some of the item issues you have mentioned could just be the way that
they are (the employee at the cotton candy stand doesn't move at all,
though it does show that items are being purchased there ...,ETC) that
may be the way it is, or it could possibly be a bug, with the other
issues you have mentioned.. a bug in the item itself, not with your game.
now. with those certain animals that you have downloaded, time for
another question:
can you download and install, and /use/ all microsoft official animal
downloads? take out the user created animals, and try to install these:
-Blackbuck
-Bongo
-Mountian lion
all found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/zootycoon/downloads.asp
install these, they are all .ztd files that go right in the updates folder.
let me know how it goes!
ZTFreak
posted Mar 31 2003, 01:51 PM
i can say, without even downloading those again, that they work. i had
them installed, with the hacks, the last time right before i reinstalled
the game. i've never had a problem with those at all.
searain79
posted Mar 31 2003, 02:16 PM
ok. for example then, say we dont download those user created animals
you spoke of. can you download any other user created animals, any other
ones?
how about, downloading any other user created animals from this site,
aside from the ones that have been giving you issues?
ZTFreak
posted Mar 31 2003, 04:16 PM
ok, here is the list of the user created animals that i have tried to
install:
Evil Parakeet
Rainbow Bear
Rainbow Cheesecake the Winged Leprechaun
German Shepard
Blue and Gold Macaw
Sumataran Tiger
On Evil Parakeet, Rainbow Bear and Rainbow Cheesecake the Winged Leprechaun, the game would show the two
opening little ads and then go to the loading screen and right as the
bar would hit the end and it is supposed to go to my menu screen, the
game will shut down.
on the german shepard, blue and gold macaw and sumataran tiger, i was
able to get all the way into a freeform game and open the animal list
but then the game shut off. do i need to put the animals in a certain
folder other than the updates folder? i didn't know if they needed to be
in a different folder or not. i've tried putting them in the updates,
ZooUpdates and ZooUpdates1 folders, none of which worked.
searain79
posted Mar 31 2003, 04:58 PM
its only the 1 updates folder any of this goes in. c:program
filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonupdates.
and if we put all of these animals in the updates folder, with nothing
else, does it work?
ZTFreak
posted Mar 31 2003, 06:40 PM
ok, i took out all the files that i had downloaded and placed them on
the desktop and then attempted to download an animal. i tried the same
ones as before but still to no avail.
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Topic: *On the verge of giving up*
posted Apr 2 2003, 07:24 PM
It probably doesn't apply here, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents
worth anyway.
Although I have not had corrupted downloads from this site, I have had
experiences with other sites where the download would say it was done
when it, in fact, ended too early. Therefore, before I put the download
in my Updates folder, I always use the "Test Action" of winzip (or one
of the other "zip/unzip" type utilities) to make sure the download is
not corrupted.
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Topic: *Developer Mode question.........*
Shel
posted Apr 4 2003, 10:51 PM
I've used the developer mode on my desktop PC (which has Windows ME). I
recently got a laptop that has XP. Now I can't delete the walls to make
my zoo bigger. I delete the entrance, save it, reload it, and then I
can't delete the walls. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Shel
Skytyger
posted Apr 5 2003, 10:00 AM
Hmmm...never had that problem before, and I have Xp...do you have any
hacks that could be interfering?
searain79
posted Apr 5 2003, 10:21 AM
im not able to offer you much help because i had too many issues with
the program.
what i do know is as long as you have deleted the zoo entrance, saved,
and re-load, thats how it should be done, but i have xp and it does what
its supposed to (mine just corrupts everything) but i know it works
great for other users.
here <http://forums.ogresnet.com/zoo/index.php> is where you might find
more help, this is zoo admins' forum.
best of luck, and let me know how it goes.
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Topic: *Removing Zoo's from ZT after adding them?*
angel92060
posted Apr 5 2003, 04:29 PM
HI I am having a problem with 2 added zoos. Death Mountain, where you
need 1 baby blk leop, and 1 baby panda. I never get the panda at all. I
went through all 36 months.
And Trapped. I want to take that one out.
Help please!
Thanks Janene
laugh.gif
Aussie Koala
posted Apr 5 2003, 06:04 PM
The Pandas will appear in your adoption menu when you have 10 different
exhibits at the required suitability (from memory 85%) and had one baby
black leopard. Do not use user-created animals in this scenario.
You then will be allowed to adopt 1 male and 1 female panda.
angel92060
posted Apr 5 2003, 07:06 PM
Ok ty I will try it.. smile.gif
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Topic: *Expansion Pack with Dino Digs and Marine Mania*
talkingwater
posted Apr 6 2003, 08:38 PM
I installed Zoo Tycoon and followed the instructions and edited the zoo
ini file and it works fine but when I put in the Expansion Pack it will
not play. It sits a minute and the Indeo Player error shows up and I
have to end the task. I have Win XP and have also installed the patch
for dino digs but it says that I don't have the correct disc in. What
can I do.? I tried tech support for Zoo tycoon but she said it was my
video card. I am really uspset that I can't us the expansion pack. Help
searain79
posted Apr 6 2003, 09:54 PM
*Indeo Video Playback Error: The program you are trying to run requires
a current Indeo codec.
To obtain a current driver that is compatible with this version of
Windows, please contact the manufacturer at http://indeo.ligos.com.[/b]
<http://indeo.ligos.com.</b>>
*Indeo XP for Windows*
With the September 2002 update to Windows XP (known as Service Pack
1), Microsoft suspended distribution of the Indeo codecs as a base part
of its operating system. This only affects users with new PCs that are
shipping with Windows XP Service Pack 1, or clean installs of Windows XP
SP1 on an older system. Unfortunately, a number of game and multimedia
titles require Indeo to be installed on the OS in order to function.
If you have been referred to this page by a pop-up message or a
third-party software provider (for a game or other multimedia product),
and are not certain that you require Indeo to make your software work,
please contact the original manufacturer. We cannot provide support for
or answer questions regarding third party software.
Free versions of Indeo and the Indeo Codecs Legacy Package for
Windows are no longer available from Ligos.
so basically, give Microsoft support a phone call (its free) and let
them know about the indeo error.....
/best of luck/ *
* *
searain79
posted Apr 6 2003, 10:16 PM
so what that sorta tells you, is its not the video card itself, but a
something else needed to play the game. if you changed your video card,
i /don't/ think thats going to change anything.
was is microsoft support you spoke to, or another tech support?
if you havent, speak to microsoft about it, if you can., or
http://indeo.ligos.com. for more info.
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Topic: *Developer mode.......??*
troi9
posted Apr 8 2003, 02:33 AM
Can the zoo walls be deleted ? I read the text file that came with it,
but it dosent make much sense when it gets to the part about modifying
the wall
Can someone PLEEEZE explain it to me like Im a three year old.
Much thx..
robbieb
posted Apr 8 2003, 07:31 AM
ok get the map u want to edit up. then u delet the entrence. save the
game then load the game u just saved ull be able to delet the wall now.
searain79
posted Apr 8 2003, 10:20 AM
right. one thing to remember, when your just playing a freeform or
scenario, remember you have the developer mode installed, so dont go on
a deleting spree (you know, to rid of all rocks and foilage, ETC) cause
you'll endup deleting everything else like the entrance and omg, CRASH.
robbieb
posted Apr 8 2003, 10:32 AM
also dont put a wall all the way up to the end of the map and and then
delet it cause it will crash thew game
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Topic: *How do you undo a lang0.dll that has been updated by a patch*
animalluvr
posted Apr 8 2003, 02:48 PM
If you updated the lang0.dll with a patch from a user made item, how do
you get the original, unaltered .dll back? I thought I remembered seeing
something somewhere about there being a back-up file. Thanks for any
help with this. biggrin.gif
searain79
posted Apr 8 2003, 02:56 PM
if you go into the main zt folder (c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo
tycoon) you will see some dll's called *lang0 backup.dll*
im pretty sure its those you want to get rid of.
jwa1107
posted Apr 9 2003, 03:26 PM
just further clarification
delete *lang0.dll*
rename *lang0 backup.dll* to *lang0.dll*
smile.gif
AND a quick FYI -
most newer object will have their own .dll file such as:
*langLoewenfrauEgyptPack.dll*
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Topic: *Help!*
Golden_lion
posted Mar 17 2003, 09:12 PM
Simple question. How can I make things to work if they are in a wordpad?
Example:Dumbo and the Jonny Bravo rock.
P.S.I just want ansers not : you dont know? and things like thay
superlion
posted Mar 17 2003, 09:21 PM
I am going to move this to tech support. Those files shouldn't be in
wordpad either... you might want to try downloading them again...
Golden_lion
posted Mar 17 2003, 09:49 PM
I have just downloaded three times and im getting mad and when
i get mad
Mak1027
posted Mar 17 2003, 10:50 PM
what is the extension on the files? if it is .ztd and it showing a
wordpad icon, no big deal, you probably have just associated your .ztd
files with wordpad ....all that means is that when you double-click on
them the computer will open the with wordpad ...but if they are .ztd
files, you don't need to open them, just put them in your updates folder
and they should work
searain79
posted Mar 18 2003, 06:51 AM
thats right! you can always right click on them and *open with* winzip,
or winrar (found at www.rarlabs.com)
when you first ever double click on a .ztd or a .cfg, windows will shake
its head and just not know what to do, until you tell it to (or be with
the unfortuante group that has the PC do things on its own...) open it
with something right.
.scn, .cfg, .ai, .lyt can be opened with word pad or note pad
.ztd, .zip can be opened with winzip or winrar
.ace - winace (www.winace.com)
if when you right click and you do not see the *open with* option,
simply click on the item to highlight it, then hold down the shift
button, and then right click on the item. *open with* should then appear.
hope this helps.
Skippy
posted Mar 18 2003, 05:13 PM
You guys get so technical but that may just be me!
Mak1027
posted Mar 18 2003, 06:53 PM
I doYou guys get so technical but that may just be me!
believe that is why they call this Technical Support ....hehehe laugh.gif
Golden_lion
posted Mar 20 2003, 08:39 PM
when i download them it automatically says .ztd and it opens a wordpad.
searain79
posted Mar 20 2003, 11:21 PM
right. it'll do that until/because you need to tell the .ztd to open
with something else (correct program that supports the type of file) for
it to be opened correctly. once you right click on the .ztd and open it
with either winzip, or winrar (correct programs) then it will work as it
should.
you do not open up the files with wordpad.
wordpad is not the correct program, so nothing you can do will make
wordpad work with a .ztd file... just the way it is!
Golden_lion
posted Mar 21 2003, 11:26 AM
but wich one i dowload? and i go to www.rarlabs.com and to downloads and
to wich one i click on?
searain79
posted Mar 21 2003, 11:31 AM
http://www.rarlabs.com/download.htm
under the heading:
English WinRAR and RAR 3.11 release
WinRAR 3.11
Golden_lion
posted Apr 10 2003, 04:41 PM
i downloaded them but,how do i put files and what i do?
Mak1027
posted Apr 10 2003, 04:48 PM
if you want to open a .ztd with winrar, right click on the file and
choose open with ...then click choose program...select winrar from the
list and there should be a little check box that says "always use the
selected program to open this kind of file" ...check that and click okay
and then all your .ztd's will now be associated with winrar ...then in
the future all you have to do to open them is double-click on them and
they will automatically open in Winrar ...once opened you can either
extract the contents of the file like you would with winzip or if you
are just editing the .uca, find it in the file and double click on it,
it will open in notepad...make your changes and then close it, it will
ask you if you want to save the changes to the archive...click yes and
the .uca is now updated in the .ztd
jwa1107
posted Apr 11 2003, 02:16 PM
smile.gif
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Topic: *New Patch?*
Carawayja
posted Apr 12 2003, 07:52 PM
Freak Occurence or not?
I purchased the double expansion pack and installed it. The first game
my wife played 90% of the guests were both thirsty and needed to go to
the restoom, regardless of what she did. I loaded a very successful zoo
from the regular game I had created previously and within minutes the
very same thing happenned to my loaded zoo. What's up. Help me Zoo
masters you're my only hope.
Jason"NewGuy" Caraway
superlion
posted Apr 12 2003, 08:35 PM
I defer that to the intelligent more ZT-focused people in the Tech.
Support board biggrin.gif
searain79
posted Apr 12 2003, 10:36 PM
heeeey... hope you /don't/ have any previous patches from the games
before adding the expansion pack.
first fun bit, is to uninstall the game. then go to c:program
filesmicrosoft games and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
then reinstall all games, with NO patches of any sort.
try out your game.
if its working now, then you get the fun task of re-downloading whatever
user created items you had in the game. stay away from benches, and
tables, and certain shops/buildings that require a *.exe patch that over
writes the lange0.dll file*
there are new updated items that come with their own .dll. *these are ok
to use*
anything microsoft official is OK.
stick to downloading only 3 user created items at a time, adding them
in, and then trying out your game.
something you had in there is what caused this ruckus!
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Topic: *deleting items*
rain4
posted Apr 14 2003, 08:45 PM
how do i delete added items. trees etc sad.gif
Blue-Eyes White Dragon
<http://www.zklounge.com/forums/index.php?showuser=6228>
posted Apr 14 2003, 08:48 PM
On the side of the screen with the options click on the little Bulldozer
icon.Then move the bulldozer cursor over a tree/rock/building/ect...when
the object turns red,left click it.
rain4
posted Apr 14 2003, 10:03 PM
i wouldhow do i delete added items. trees etc sad.gif
like to remove it from the game altogether
superlion
posted Apr 14 2003, 10:12 PM
Open your main Zoo Tycoon folder. In it is a folder called "Updates".
Added items are all in there. Then find the item you want to remove and
drag it into your recycle bin. smile.gif
searain79
posted Apr 14 2003, 10:13 PM
visit c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonupdates.
in this updates folder is where you will find all added items that have
been installed in the game (user created items, MS official downloads, etc)
searain79
posted Apr 14 2003, 10:13 PM
ugh....
*the dreaded hit submit at same time*
laugh.gif
superlion
posted Apr 14 2003, 10:47 PM
hehe... oops tongue.gif
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Topic: *Megatherium always invisible*
blutoboy
posted Feb 10 2003, 05:25 PM
I have downloaded that thing 10 times!! it is still invisible...I even
tried deleting everything else but nope!!!!
searain79
posted Feb 10 2003, 05:27 PM
do you have plain ZT.. or DD and MM?>
once downloaded, and opened with winzip, the .ztd goes into the updates
folder c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoonupdates
and the .dll goes in the main zt folder. c:program filesmicrosoft
gameszoo tycoon
Brad12
posted Feb 12 2003, 03:07 PM
that happened to me till mak helped me out
timnealon
posted Apr 15 2003, 07:43 PM
I have this same problem......it is always invisible. Can someone who
knows how to fix this problem please post it here for me, and everyone
else with this problem to read.......thank you
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Topic: *Problems with the picnic benches*
MysticWolfGurl
posted Apr 15 2003, 10:09 PM
for some reason in my zoo tycoon the guests go to the picnic benches and
just stand there and more guests go to the benches and crowd each other
and get stuck and then ive got a ton of angry guests because of that,
does anyone know what might be causing this?
thanks,
Terri
searain79
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:37 AM
this occurs when you have certain user created items that are not
compatible
with the game.
go into c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoon and save your zoo.ini
file to a seperate location. (make a copy.. to say.. My Documents....)
now... to fix this easily, uninstall zoo tycoon. then go to c:program
filesmicrosoft games and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
then reinstall zt, dont add any patches. then install DD and MM.
then go back to the main folder and add back your zoo.ini file.
now. test your game.
you may need to start a NEW map.
if you find this is working, STICK to downloading up to 3 things at a time,
and then testing your game.
things like user created buildings are a huge issue, if they arent
compatible.
to get around this, never use the patch to overwrite any .dll's. only
stick to the .ztd's. (make sure they are compatible with your expansion
pack.. most are updated to cure this issue)
*note: anything MS official works in the game.
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Topic: *How do i add more animals?*
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 01:02 AM
hi there,
i have downloaded a few extra animals in ZTD format, so i unziped them,
but now what?
any help?
aapman
posted Apr 16 2003, 01:30 AM
just put them into the Updates folder, wich is located in the Zoo Tycoon
folder. Then they should work(this is only for .ZTD or .ztd files)
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 01:53 AM
Um, i dont have one of those folders, should i creat one?
aapman
posted Apr 16 2003, 06:05 AM
if you have zoo tycoon, then go to this folder C:Program FilesMicrosoft
GamesZoo Tycoon
Most of the times, ZT is found there
in that folder, you can find the map named Updates, there you can put
the .ZTD or .ztd files
Mak1027
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:53 AM
if you download something and it is in .ZTD formathi there,
i have downloaded a few extra animals in ZTD format, so i unziped them,
but now what?
any help?
already, you don't have to unzip it ...you only need to unzip files
which come in .ZIP format ...like Aapman said it goes in the updates
folder which should be in your main ZT folder ...you can just click and
drag it there or copy and paste it there ...or you can use the check
locally option of the game to install it (only for .ztd's)
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Topic: *GUESTS GETTING STUCK?????*
kccmann
posted Apr 15 2003, 10:42 PM
I have a problem. I am not sure which theme pack or item I downloaded
but my guests are getting stuck on all benches, picnic tables, etc...
HELP??!
MysticWolfGurl
posted Apr 16 2003, 01:56 AM
the same thing is happening to me too, i dont know whats going on!
Niebi
posted Apr 16 2003, 02:02 AM
please look for existing threads before you make new ones ! smile.gif
(copied from one of searains stickys)
this occurs when you have certain user created items that are not
compatible
with the game.
go into c:program filesmicrosoft gameszoo tycoon and save your zoo.ini
file to a seperate location. (make a copy.. to say.. My Documents....)
now... to fix this easily, uninstall zoo tycoon. then go to c:program
filesmicrosoft games and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
then reinstall zt, dont add any patches. then install DD and MM.
then go back to the main folder and add back your zoo.ini file.
now. test your game.
you may need to start a NEW map.
if you find this is working, STICK to downloading up to 5 things at a time,
and then testing your game.
things like user created buildings are a huge issue, if they arent
compatible. to get around this, never use the patch over write to overwrite
any .dll's. only stick to the .ztd's.
*note: anything MS official works in the game.
Denali
posted Apr 16 2003, 07:21 AM
So let me get this straight ...
I can use ANY building/object I want, as long as I don't use the patch
updates, and only use the .ztd files. Even ones tested and found NOT to
work? or just ones that aren't on either list ( I am referring to the
worky, or the don't worky lists) ?
If I don't use the patch, or update the .dll, what will this mean for
the building/object ? Will it still work ?
I believe you are referring to the lang001.dll that always gets
overwritten, AS WELL as the patches that are sent along with some packs.
Also .. Is the "What worky in MM" thread up to date ?
Mak1027
posted Apr 16 2003, 08:24 AM
okay ...it is not .dlls really that cause the problems, it is any update
to the guest.ai that can cause a problem ...the .dll simply adds text
(ie tooltips and building name) for the items. It is usually benches and
tables which cause a problem.....or theme packs that have a bench or
table. The biggest problem that would occur with a regular building ( no
table or bench) with just a .dll would be that the string numbers were
used by another object and the tooltips will be wrong, so if you install
without a .dll, the building will still work, because the actual
programming for it is in the .ztd file, just the tooltips and name of
the building would be missing
I will make it my mission this weekend to test all the items we have for
download here and update the list ....
I sort of got lazy onceAge of Mythology arrived (I'm addicted)
kccmann
posted Apr 16 2003, 09:34 AM
Thank you all for your help. Before I got any replies to my may-day
call, I went and deleted all of the buildings that I had previously
downloaded and it fixed the problem. I am going to take your advise
about downloading a little at a time and then test the game. Thanks
again everyone.
MysticWolfGurl
posted Apr 16 2003, 06:52 PM
im gonna do the same, hopefully this will get fixed for me its such a
pain lol thanks again everyone
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Topic: *to zip or not to zip?*
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 01:10 AM
Hi there,
in my zoo tycoon folder i have animals.zip , config.zip , fences.zip etc.
the game runs fine, but are these ment to be unziped,?
searain79
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:35 AM
yesssssss
those are everything to do with the game..includes config files,
animation files, everything that you installed with the disk.
they are zipped to be compressed because its like, hundreds of little
files.
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 11:08 AM
hmm..so i did that, unziped all. but when i removed the zip files after.
the game wont run. eh? do i keep the zip files too?
searain79
posted Apr 16 2003, 11:14 AM
GAH!!
oh ooops
i missread that.
don't unzip those.
thought you meant *do i keep them zipped*
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 09:45 PM
hahah .. thats ok, so keep them zipped? i thought when i added animals i
had to add path names to in the config . zip files.. but now i see !
im a 3D animator and i cant even figure out Zoo tycoon! whats wrong with
me?- dont answer that..
ZTDinozaur
posted Apr 16 2003, 09:49 PM
What type of stuff do you make? I'm not realy good at things like
that.(sorry if I'm going of topic happy.gif;<anime teardrop )
bustarat
posted Apr 17 2003, 01:24 AM
lol, well i make 3D characters, and animations, i have a furry blue bear
i am working on at the moment, think fur like ice age fur, or monsters
inc fur..
we run a small multimedia business in adelaide, South Australia . my
partner and i.
www.randomcreations.tk
<this is not a plug , i was ASKED >
searain79
posted Apr 17 2003, 06:59 AM
whew! ok., everything is all good here.
when you add stuff to the updates folder, to my knowledge it doesnt add
anything new to any config files, tho there are some traces of say,
animations to bonus downloads we get later on (i think the swordfish run
in that category) but they are lurking there to begin with.
so yes, keep them zipped.
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Topic: *Missing My Icons?*
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 05:59 AM
hi there,!
um, i seem to be missing some icons in my zoo tycoon? for zoo buildings
and stuff, and my waterfall too. can any one help?
searain79
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:33 AM
depends:
is this the demo?
you had them before?
is this DD, MM or plain ZT?
did you ever have an unlock,
have you recently uninstalled the game?
the more details the better.
thanks!
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 11:06 AM
no its not a demo, - and its ZT. and no they were never there. and no
unlock, and no uninstall. im not sure if i have the full ZT . i knoiw
its not a demo.
searain79
posted Apr 16 2003, 11:16 AM
when you load the main screen of zt, and get the main menu, whats the
version number?
bustarat
posted Apr 16 2003, 09:47 PM
um...
10.07.00.0005
Mak1027
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:15 PM
do you know which items exactly? maybe they are things that need to be
researched before they become available
bustarat
posted Apr 17 2003, 01:26 AM
well surly i dont have to research for a waterfall? and its also park
building, like resterant and stuff.
Jens (ZTU)
posted Apr 17 2003, 07:15 AM
bustarat has the beta version of Zoo Tycoon, he probably downloaded it
from kazaa wink.gif I suggest you buy the final version bustarat smile.gif
searain79
posted Apr 17 2003, 07:17 AM
Jens (ZTU)
posted Apr 17 2003, 07:19 AM
No problem searain smile.gif I have the beta and the final version. You
can't actually do anything with the beta. You can't have cheats on it,
no user created animals, ... I guess they decided to give users a chance
to put in their own animals in a later beta wink.gif
searain79
posted Apr 17 2003, 07:21 AM
aha! thats it!
that also solves the users issue with the cheats thing! (as posted in
the Easter Eggs section)
HAH!
Thankyou Kind Folk!
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Topic: *Developer mode ??*
troi9
posted Apr 17 2003, 05:28 AM
Ok. I went back to zoo admin to download dev mode and noticed there
are three different versions for ZT DD and MM. Does it make a difference
if I have ZT and the expansion pack with DD and MM on one
disc installed as opposed to all three installed individually ?
Any thoughts bout' this ?
Thanx.
searain79
posted Apr 17 2003, 06:51 AM
if you have plain zt , then download zt only.
if you have zt with DD only installed, then you download only the DD
version
if you have zt,dd and mm, then you download the MM version.
if you have ZT and MM only, then you download the MM version.
happy sailing biggrin.gif
troi9
posted Apr 17 2003, 09:16 PM
Ill give it whirlll !
thanx!
-----
Topic: *Dang developer mode !!*
troi9
posted Apr 8 2003, 10:16 PM
OK...Ive tried all that but the walls dont seem to want to leave.
Any other suggestions ?
This is making me NUTS!!
robbieb
posted Apr 9 2003, 07:40 AM
delet the main entrance. then save the game. go to the main menu and
load the game u just savced. you will then be able to delet the walls
searain79
posted Apr 9 2003, 08:34 AM
just to make sure: on the main zoo tycoon screen when you load the game,
you DO get a new little Zoo Admin logo?
troi9
posted Apr 9 2003, 05:36 PM
Nope. I get no Zoo Admin logo.
Ok should i just reinstall dev. mode ?
searain79
posted Apr 9 2003, 07:41 PM
yeah. (you should get a new little logo on the menu...)
click here to see <http://sanctuary.damnserver.com/~princess/ZA_new.JPG>
troi9
posted Apr 10 2003, 07:23 PM
cool....I'll try that .
thanx
robbieb
posted Apr 10 2003, 07:58 PM
wait did u install it through the littel setup thing?
troi9
posted Apr 14 2003, 11:41 AM
Sorry for the delay gettin' back to you.
I would have to say yeah to that one. What ever files were in the zip
folder that said to install ..I did.
Wrong thing to do ?
troi9
posted Apr 24 2003, 08:58 PM
I got it to work properly, I get the ZA logo and the walls are history.
Thanks Robbieb and Searain.
YOU PEOPLE ARE GODS (or Goddesses) !!!!!
searain79
posted Apr 24 2003, 10:51 PM
glad to hear you finally got it working!
(and thx for the nice words friend) biggrin.gif
-----
Topic: *How did they do it?*
superlion
posted Apr 17 2003, 11:34 AM
I downloaded the UXP from Zoo Admin, and now I am left with this
question: How does one make a scenario?? 8O Really, I would like to
know, and if there's not any more programing involved than editing a
.uca file, you might be seeing scenarios made by superlion in the near
future. biggrin.gif Thanks.
ZTDinozaur
posted Apr 17 2003, 03:26 PM
Well on Zoo Adimn(the forum) Pixager or how ever you write it(^^; sorry)
is working on a FAQ for Scenarios. It's not done yet though.
jwa1107
posted Apr 17 2003, 04:00 PM
there is a text file for every scenario with a *.scn* extension
let's peek inside scn16.scn
that's the arctic zoo (bonus disc) scenario from M$
this is just a partial of some parts of it...
economy=scenario/scn16/economy.cfg
savegame=maps/scn16.zoo
setcash=75000
addcash=0
reset=1
research=resnoa.cfg
marketing=mktg.cfg
triggers=hideall
*triggers=hide_adopt_tab* <==/note this is a "donated animals only
scenario"/
worldConfig=sounds/sea1.cfg
extragoals=freeform/donate2.scn
extragoals=freeform/awards.scn
extragoals=freeform/12months.scn
[hideall]
; Makes all animals unavailable.
trulea=4
truleb=7
[hide_adopt_tab]
trulea=2
truleb=4
targa=2075
[ambients]
;Bluejay
;id=5051
;Seagull
id=5053
[duration]
*nummonths=12*
display=1
text=18000
icon=ui/scenario/clock/clock
[goals]
goal=EXHIBIT_SUITABILITY
goal=ANIMAL_HAPPY
goal=DONATE_BIGHORN_M
;Scenario objectives
[EXHIBIT_SUITABILITY]
;Have an exhibit suitability rating of 75 for 6 habitats.
rulea=6
ruleb=0
arga=6
type=0
value=75
sticky=0
hidden=0
text=17600
[ANIMAL_HAPPY]
;Have an animal happiness rating of 80
rulea=1
ruleb=0
type=0
value=80
sticky=0
hidden=0
text=17100
[DONATE_BIGHORN_M]
;Boxed animal, BIGHORN_M, will be donated.
rulea=1
ruleb=0
type=0
value=0
sticky=1
hidden=1
optional=1
text=17100
trulea=5
truleb=0
targa=5032
targb=-1
ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC. ETC.
but I'd still wait for the ZooAdmin tutorial as a whole
superlion
posted Apr 17 2003, 04:12 PM
Ok, cool... I will be waiting for it biggrin.gif
Mica
posted Apr 25 2003, 09:29 PM
so will I then I can make a scenario when you have to destroy the zoo!
Goals: Guest happiness = 0 or more
Escaped animals = 12 or more
Happy exhibits = 0 or more
Guests = 10 or more
-----
Topic: *The dinos ATE their scientist*
LadyLuckNOT
posted Apr 24 2003, 01:21 PM
I have never had this happen. Actually, I was under the impression that
it couldn't happen. I was expanding my Coelophysis exhibit and my
scientist was in there with the dinos. I finished the expansion and
started to remove the old wall. As soon as I was done a message popped
up stating: Coe/Her (my name for the scientist, who was assigned to the
Coelophysis and Herrerasaurus) was eaten by Coelophysis.
I have no user created items/animals downloaded. And, from what I can
tell, the Coelophyses happiness never dropped below 97 or so.
Perhaps this isn't a bug and the dinosaurs do occasionally eat their
scientists, but I didn't think so. I mean, if the T. Rex and Spinos
don't eat their keepers, why would the little old Coelophysis?
searain79
posted Apr 24 2003, 05:00 PM
they do.
if one has escaped, or is really ticked, it'll eat any person in the game.
LadyLuckNOT
posted Apr 24 2003, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the info Sear. I didn't know that. I've had dinos eat guests,
but never a Scientist. I wonder if he would have left the scientist
alone if she had been female.
searain79
posted Apr 24 2003, 10:52 PM
omg
HAHA!
that is just TOOOO good a post you just made O Lady.
hahahahhahaha its true enough my friend, true enough.
bilmarjess
posted Apr 25 2003, 05:22 PM
laugh.gif laugh.gif Now that you mentain it when my dinos eat guests
they are usually male. ohmy.gif I never thought about it until now.
ZTDinozaur
posted Apr 25 2003, 05:24 PM
very funny. O, well. It is true laugh.gif laugh.gif . They must not
have wanted to make an animation for a T-rex eating a person,etc,etc.....
Dragon_Master
posted Apr 25 2003, 07:40 PM
One time (somehow) a message came up saying that my apotasuars ate my
scientist! I thought they were hervabores!
robbieb
posted Apr 25 2003, 07:57 PM
no its the females u got to watch out for it seems not matter what
spicies they ALL rip ur head off eventualy
bilmarjess
posted Apr 26 2003, 07:31 AM
biggrin.gif I think bearded dragons are cool,I would love to have one of
those in my zoo.My Mammoths eat people and destroy more than t-rex go
figure.
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Topic: *Guest Wont Come to my grandstands or sit on my benches*
LuvMyMastiff
posted Apr 15 2003, 08:16 AM
I have played this game many times before but now after uninstalling and
reinstalling it on my new computer I can not get my guests to sit on my
grandstands and watch my shows, they will not sit on my benches or even
at my picnic tables. Then last night as I was playing they were hungry
but would not eat at any of the resturants or anything. Any suggestions
would be helpful. Thank You
Skytyger
posted Apr 15 2003, 08:41 AM
Do you have any hacks or user-created buildings in you game?
searain79
posted Apr 15 2003, 12:14 PM
once with the uninstall, (which i need you to do again) go back to
c:program filesmicrosoft games and delete the zoo tycoon folder.
reinstall. add no patches of any sort.
make a new zoo , and see how it works.
once you see it working, download any official microsoft downloads
(animals, theme pack, etc) and again, make sure the game still works.
when it comes to user created items, only download 3 at a time, install,
and test out your game. its one of those that was mucking up the game.
LuvMyMastiff
posted Apr 15 2003, 03:43 PM
Thanks for your help. I am currently in the process of reinstalling Zoo
Tycoon and will let you know if it works or not. Just another question
though, They have a KFC and a McDonalds for the zoo tycoon that was made
through someone else, Can I use this or not. I did not have these
installed when the problems started so I was just wondering if they are
ok to use. Thanks again.
Melissa tongue.gif
Mak1027
posted Apr 15 2003, 04:00 PM
You can get Marine Mania versions of the McDonald's and KFC theme pack
on DJ's site ...I believe the ones here are only updated for DD
http://www.hemsida.net/ztdesign/
Denali
posted Apr 16 2003, 07:27 AM
Mak ,
I was just reading the "what worky in MM" thread ... Why do you say that
the KFC Theme pack does not work for MM, but in this thread offer
instructions on where to get it ?
Mak1027
posted Apr 16 2003, 08:14 AM
the one we have on this site does not work for MM and at the time I
posted that list DJ hadn't updated his for MM, but I just checked on his
site and he has now updated the KFC for MM biggrin.gif
Denali
posted Apr 16 2003, 10:43 PM
ah .. got it ! Thanks, this forum is awesome !
LuvMyMastiff
posted Apr 18 2003, 08:25 PM
Hey Guys thanks for the help. I am finally on the endangered species
scenario. I had to reinstall everything over again and then it worked.
Thank you guys so much. laugh.gif
Melissa
searain79
posted Apr 19 2003, 12:20 AM
Aw hay- thats awesome to hear that it is working for you!
happy gaming!
Golden_lion
posted Apr 26 2003, 12:13 PM
I also have that and in the swin whit dolphins and the boat rental and
swiming shacks i only see people standing in water whitout any dolphin
swiming clothes or any boat and
i cannot kill guests becausei cannot make them be in the tank.
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Topic: *NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO*
robbieb
posted Apr 25 2003, 07:54 PM
nooooo my mm disk fell i went to pic it up and my computer chair ran it
over does anyone know how (if u can) to fix a crack in it its not big
but it goes through the disk and its not reading it right now
Dragon_Master
posted Apr 25 2003, 08:18 PM
I don't think you can my friend tried but she said no matter what she
did I't woudn't work...but let's just hope your smarter than her...
Zoogrammy
posted Apr 25 2003, 11:25 PM
You might try calling MS and requesting replacement media. There will be
a charge ofcourse and you would have to have some proof of purchase.
bluememaw
posted Apr 25 2003, 11:31 PM
8O Oh, no, Robbie!! I am so sorry. I have learned the hard way not to
move the stupid chair when something like that happens. (ripped a sleeve
out of a sweater once) I hope you find a solution soon.
searain79
posted Apr 26 2003, 09:45 AM
theres something called a disk doctor that buffers and replaces cracks..
there is also a nice purple liquid to use to fill up cracks as well but
its super expensive but i can find you the name if you like.. its also
sweet for playstation cd's as well.
robbieb
posted Apr 26 2003, 03:19 PM
yeah i used my disk doctor but it didnt help ill look in to the purple
liquid thing thanks biggrin.gif
-----
Topic: *types of maps*
bilmarjess
posted Apr 25 2003, 05:16 PM
8O I was playing the large dino map and using only dinos and a few
dino/animal mixed exhibits and even though all the suitability ratings
were above 95 and happiness of the animals was 98, the guest ratingskept
falling even though the stats were only showing a few hungry tired
ect... I couldn't get the rating above 70 It was only year one,but I
haven't had this happen before ,I rarely use the dino maps or only dinos
does that have any thing to do with it?It isn't the download everyone
hungry,thirsty problem that occured when the add ons first came out this
was different.Any one have any ideas? Thanks
searain79
posted Apr 25 2003, 05:27 PM
was it just the rating that went all wonky?
you know, if a dino escapes, the rating plummets by 60 % SO FAST even if
you automatically pause it to get the animal and put it back in its cage..
but is this the only type of maps this happens on for you, and is it
jsut the rating, or is it other things as well? *gone to re-read post*
bilmarjess
posted Apr 25 2003, 06:20 PM
It is just this map so far and zoo rating and animal happiness are
fine ,I have downloaded a few new things but nothing that would make a
difference ,it always seems to get dino zoo ratings to increase for me
but not like this I will try that map with just animals and see what
happens.
searain79
posted Apr 26 2003, 09:47 AM
if its just that certain map, then it may be a bug.. try out some other
maps too, is this for big maps? i hate big maps. so hard to please all
those guests with all that space...
bilmarjess
posted Apr 26 2003, 03:34 PM
I did the same large dino map today but with only animals ,no dinos
and it was fine I could only get the happiness