I was just looking at a website and it showed me just how many lies the dairy industry realy is and it managed to turn me vegan. I just thought it was a realy great site and that u guys might like to take a look.
it also has loads of debating subjects about different animal issues, anyway thats enough of me tellin u about it, check it out, it's www.animalaid.org.uk i think thats the right address if not ill change it enjoy
I don't really mind. Like It's not harming me, That sounds selfish I know. But basicly alot of the food we eat has atleast soemthign to do with animals. You could not have milk because it comes from a cow. You know what I meen, or a egg, becaus eit comes from a chicken. W/e, Im speaking out of ma arse :p You will become normal again And anyway, teh world is basicly a LIE.
Yeah i know.
I aint been very succesful in veganism yet but i still aint drinkin milk and am avoidin cheese and stuff.
heehee
And anyway its stil a realy cool site
No milk thats liek LIFE to me. Cereal etc. Cheese......i can get away with. How abotu eggs huh :p "Vegetarions" is weird, you got different types, VERY CONFUSSING!
I think it is much harder to be a vegan than a vegetarian.
There are grocery stores around here that cater to a vegan diet (not exclusively a vegan store, mind you)
but the one thing i could never do is drink soy milk.
part of it i know is a mental block because i have grown up knowing milk has to be refrigerated. and soy milk just sits in boxes on unrefrigerated shelves
personnaly I would never become a vegan, common no milk,wool, leather,meat, eggs. Anyway if you want to protest against animal abuse or mistreatement. By products of companies or farms who do not do that. In Belgium we have such quality label wich garanties that this milk is clean
A fact is a simple statement that everyone believes. It is innocent, unless found guilty. A hypothesis is a novel suggestion that no one wants to believe. It is guilty, until found effective. Edward Teller (1908 - 2003)
Well i get to eat eggs as i said because i have my own chickens wich i actualy keep as pets heehee
It isn't just the way that the cows are treated but the things that the milk contains.
It contains loads of blood and puss from the poor ickle cows udder and stuff.
But i do agree that soy milk dosen't exactly seem all to appetising
I'm omnivorical, like Wodan made us! And I LOVE whipped cream so I wouldn't suvive as a veganist. And I like meeeeeaaaaat! Meat's so sweet! Gotta love meat!
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Well Milk is basicly my life, Chocolate, Ha smilk in it (well milk chocolate :p) I dotn think I could go on with life without Milk and Chocolate. AND CHICKEN IS JUSTS O NICE
I do applaud those who are vegan or vegetarian,however,having studied the development of mankind I've got to say man evolved as an omnivore.Our closest relatives in the wild,the chimps,will hunt for food & I've even heard that gorillas will,on ocassion,eat carrion.An exclusively plant based diet is not natural for man & we do not have the digestive system to cope properly with it.
However....
I do try to only use animal products which come from free range or organically farmed animals & to feed my collection of animals on the same.
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1. There are unscupulous people on both sides of the debate.
2. I love my meat, dairy products, etc. Couldn't live without meat and cheese.
3. (More to do with vegetarianism in general) I don't believe itis wrong to humanely kill an animal for food. Toturing them is a different story, but there are laws against that - and blood and pus being in milk (especially loads of such fluids) sounds to me more like an urban legend than truth. The FDA would not allow it in this country at least, and as Rutlinger has said in Europe they have "safe" milk purchaseable. In Britain I know the laws are so tight in concern about mad cow disease that they can't even sell beef with bones in it, so I'm pretty sure blood and such are staying out of milk there. Anyway, I believe there is an important distinction between animals and humans, of course. They are based on my religious beliefs. Anybody want to tell a lion on the savannah to eat grass instead of zebra?
4. A friend brought this up - in any food industry, animals are harmed. Do you have any idea how many small field creatures are killed in grain harvesting, tilling, etc? I don't even want to think about it. Plus, in keeping food safe, many animals like rats are killed. Thousands of people starve to death in India (where rats are considered sacred) annually because so much grain is lost from rat consumption and contamination - what they don't eat, they end up comntaminating with feces so it is no longer safe to eat. 26.8 million metric tons of cereal grains are spoiled by rats each year in India alone. That's 20% of the grain harvest.
I do have a cousin who is vegan, although she will eat free-range eggs and drink free-range (err whatever you call it) milk. She doesn't wear leather or wool either. Do you know how hard it is to find good shoes that have no leather in them?
If you just do not like the taste though, I can't really argue with you. That's just as good a reason as it is for me to not eat snails.
I agree with Prof. Paul to a degree... we need more amino acids in our diet than herbivores or granivores. Though we at least are not obligate carnivores like cats, which require tuarine and vitamin A to survive, which are not found in plants... but they can't synthesize them from plant matter like most animals can.
superlion wrote: and blood and pus being in milk (especially loads of such fluids) sounds to me more like an urban legend than truth. The FDA would not allow it in this country at least...
actually just to clarify, the USDA does allow various fluids in milk at certain ratio levels.
USDA allows milk to contain from one to one and a half million white blood cells per
millilitre. These white blood cells are what anti-milk people will define as "pus."
Even in humans, various chemicals and fluids (like caffeine) come through the nursing mother's system and out in her breastmilk (and thus into the baby).
And, yes, human breastmilk DOES contain white blood cells and antibodies.
It is part of the nature of milk - a fluid designed to give mammalian infants the nourishment and protection they need until they can eat foods after weaning.
enjoy
thats liek LIFE to me. Cereal etc. Cheese......i can get away with. How abotu eggs huh :p "Vegetarions" is weird, you got different types, VERY CONFUSSING!
